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Putin didn't hear the message. or it was not the right message to deter putin. and right now, too many wars. and speaking of ukraine receiving american nuclear assistance after invasion, it sounds -- russian troops enter, who cares what u.s. is going to send. >> fair enough. i only meant more recently in terms of since you became world famous as a chess master. that's all, but i take your point. you've been criticizing him for a generation. from natasha's reporting we're hearing that the u.s. might send ukraine's army some military equipment including ammunitions, mortars, javelin, anti-tank m...
Invade because of how hard it will be for him to hold offto the country. now it remains to be seen whether or not president biden's commitment to not putting u.s. forces on the ground there in the event that war erupts holds. special operations forces are circling in and out of ukraine and the cia may actually be instrumental in maintaining that kind of resistance force, helping the ukrainians put up that fight essentially if a war does erupt. >> natasha bertrand, thank you. let's turn to garry kasparov, the chess master and a critic of vladimir putin. let's play what we heard from press sec...
Confident in their position. it makes me wonder, feels like putin is a little bit of a chess master here. he sounds like he is ready to play a long game. one gets a sense that, to some degree, he enjoys the fact that russia is in the limelight. that we're talking about nato. that we wouldn't have even considered a few weeks ago. who's game are we playing here, right now? >> we are all responding to vladimir putin. i'm sure he likes nothing more than the rest of the world is wondering with vladimir putin is doing. i sat in the room with putin and [inaudible] these are people who can live very e...
Just in hours as you can see with the tragedies in lives. this is measured in the human life of ukrainians. so tell us. >> i want to bring in gary casparov, a legendary chess master and outspoken putin critic. we just heard there from president zelensky. what do you think of zelensky's call to impose sanctions now or at least release the list of what could happen instead of waiting? >> i couldn't agree more with president zelensky, because we've heard words about sanctions for years, and putin always got away with his aggressions. he had a genocidal war in chechnya in 2008.