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Religious liberty, important to conservatives. there's a second reason here, brian. the fact is he mentioned that he had clerked for justice anthony kennedy. justice kennedy went to denver when he was sworn in, so he's friendly person for justice kennedy, and the conservative groups are really looking for the next chess move. this, remember, is replacing a conservative justice scalia with, obviously, another conservative. what the conservative groups really hoped for is to get one of the seats of somebody who is going to retire soon, and they wonder when that's anthony kennedy, and they hope b...

With that block on a number of important issues of late, and at best, as pete puts it, they would get the next chess move. they'd get another seat and kennedy would say, this is great. i know neil gorsuch, if all the nominees are like neil gorsuch, i feel very happy leaving this to president trump. >> nicole wallace, we come to you for the politics of it all. what do you think? >> donald trump needed this night tonight. he had in the eyes of all of his detractors much of the media and maybe even some of his supporters made a bit of a mess of the first 12 days of presidency. the muslim ban, sup...

Why are they happy tonight? >> two reasons they wanted him chosen. first of all, they think he's the most ga legal like, if that's the right term, of the nominee. like scalia's approach to the law, statutes based on what the words say, that the constitution should be looked at based on what founders meant. that's in the scalia mold. a persuasive writer, opinions clear, readable, and dare i say entertaining. doesn't have the rough edges scalia did. from the judicial philosophy, they like him. he's been a standup guy on religious liberty, important to conservatives. there's a second reason here,...

It's all right for you to leave and give us a second appointment to the court. this is a chess move, in addition to everything else. so it has lots and lots of layers to this appointment. >> what can you tell us about the judge, himself, that donald trump selected? >> well, it's very interesting. i mean, from a psychological perspective and a personality perspective, he is son of anne gorsuch burford who is a bomb throwing take no prisoners head of the epa during the reagan administration. he is known on his court as being unfailingly polite, a good listener, a great colleague. anything but a ...

He is sclal in maalia in many r. he's an easier pick to fill in for scalia than he is to fill a swing seat on the court. hard mapp has little paper trail. pro-life phone afolks attacked because he doesn't have a paper trail. the trump administration gets criticism for being neanderthals playing marbles. this was a great chess move. they're getting a great justice and maybe usher the way for