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Their daughters. but they have a close relationship. they are -- have been through a lot together. and this is nothing new. but for mcdougal to go on there and try to ingratiate herself with the american public that she meant so much to him. i have little sympathy for her. >> listen -- this is so creepy. >> can we remind people what he said about his daughter. he made comments about her on howard stern disgusting sexual in nature. he said that -- talking about her chest size, about how she is a ten. that's creepy. >> didn't he say on the view i would be dating my daughter. >> yes, he said that...

It upsets them for some reason. any need all wrapped 77. who needs a beauty panellen at this point? they have the internet. >> i don't understand these things any more. >> is that your phone? >> no, it is a harp! >> oh, my god. >> you have the world's sexiest pacemaker. pab, why are the pageant organizers caving? what are they afraid of? what are they really afraid of? what happens if they ke decideo just do bikinis? >> i think it is probably choice a for the previous question that they are caving in to the minority of religious conservatives who are putting a lot of pressure on them. honestly...

It said 13. >> 13? >> yes. >> all right. so 12, 13. she's pretty young. and what was your plan with this 12, 13-year-old girl? >> she had some video games. and we were going to play some video games. >> video games? >> yes. >> you ask what her chest size is. she says 32b and you say "sweet." you ask if she's ever had oral sex. you ask her to show you her crazy side. you ask her if she feels the need for sex and then you say "if you do, i can fulfill that need." you say, "i'm a bit concerned doing underage." >> no. well, our conversation was -- well -- >> i have the conversation. >> yeah. she t...

12, 13-year-old girl? >> she had some video games. and we were going to play some video games. >> video games? >> yes. >> you ask what her chest size is. she says 32b, and you say "sweet." you ask if she's ever had oral sex. you ask her to show you her crazy side. you ask her if she feels the need for sex, and then you say "if you do, i can fulfill that need." you say, "i'm a bit concerned doing underage." >> no. well, our conversation was -- well -- >> i have the conversation. >> yeah. she talked about it. and i talked about it. and then we -- we kind of sort of got to a point where we said, ...

And what was your plan with this 12, 13-year-old girl? >> she had some video games. and we were going to play some video games. >> video games? >> yes. >> you ask what her chest size is. she says 32b and you say "sweet." you ask if she's ever had oral sex. you ask her to show you her crazy side. you ask her if she feels the need for sex and then you say "if you do, i can fulfill that need." you say, "i'm a bit concerned doing underage." >> no. well, our conversation was -- well -- >> i have the conversation. >> yeah. she talked about it. and i talked about it. and then we -- we kind of started...