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Was kavanaugh. why even go through now that he's confirmed. >> it's a trumpian way to handle the argument. they say, you know, worry about her and believe her. he said, well, what about him? they say worry about your daughters not being believed? he said worry about your sons being falsely accused. it made a lot of republicans nervous, and i think there will be a serious backlash, where many, many suburban districts will hinge on college-educated women most turned off by president trump as hi party, but this supreme court was worth a lot. it's going to lock in 5-4 jersey on important issues li...

Mr. trump taking a shot across the bow at governor rick perry. listen to this. >> one of the things that i'm most honored about is that so far everybody that's attacked me has gone down the tubes. perry attacked me. now he's getting out of the race. he was at 4% or 5%. now he's getting out of the race. he is at zero. >> joining me now, former texas governor rick perry. governor, do you want to make news today on "the real story"? is donald trump right? are you getting out of the race? >> a broken clock is right once a day. so, you know, the bottom line is i'm still here and i'm still working, ...

I really got nothing. the question was what did i get for signing the pledge. absolutely nothing other than the assurance that i would be treated fairly. and i have seen that over the last two months. they've really been very fair. >> joining me now guy benson, fox news contributor, political editor at townhall.com and simon rosenberg, former clinton campaign advisor. great to see you guys. there was entertaining feeder going on earlier. guy, what did you think of it? >> look. first of all, i applaud donald trump for taking the pledge. i think this is something that he had to do. this is someo...

The messaging of the gop is quite frankly, sucked on this issue. there's no doubt about that. but it still doesn't change the underlying facts that democrats, including the newly elected -- re-elected president are on the hook for this just as much as the republicans are. neither side have effectively dealt with this. we've left simpson/bowles sitting on the sidelines. we've now had simpson/bowles two, no one is talking about that. sequester is something that both democrats and republicans put on the table. and now everyone is acting like, oh, my god, we're going to do this? come on. >> so the...