>> she was frugal. she came from that generation. she was born in the great depression. >> you went shopping with her? >> i did. >> talk about that. >> there's this perception of them as being very wealthy, very waspy. in reality, she was very practical. and sometimes she would just swing by the office, particularly when we were in maine, and say come on, we're going to go shopping up in portland. and shopping in portland means going to a strip mall and going to the chico's. she would spend an hour perusing, looking at jewelry, might buy a shirt and some pants. she had this very down-to-earth ...