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Sight, all right, that chief maker can talk about what the options are for sort of beefing security at the capitol or responding more assertively to individual threats against individual members but we're looking at a bigger cultural problem not within the power of the capitol police to solve. >> sometimes members are making the problem worse. >> yeah, exactly. this is really the responsibility sometimes of lawmakers to be careful about what they're saying, right? because people are listening to them. people are looking up to them. people take cues about people that they're targeting. i think ...

And we need to fix it. if that's the case, then let's go ahead and fix it. >> donna brazille is a cnn commenter and donna bernard is with the women's center for politics. great to have you here. can we go back a segment. michelle, what went on with congress member fortenberry. he was a backer of the 2008 law that everyone says is a critical role in the law. so much that john mccain and jeff flake say we have to change it. i asked him as chief maker of the backer, should we make the change because of the mexican kids and central american kids should be treated the same, he balked. >> he balked....