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Case, the white house and the administration made over-the-top arguments. they said there is absolute immunity. witnesses don't even have to appear. a very strong, well laid out opinion, i think, could influence some of these decisions as to whether some witnesses appear or don't appear. >> but it's over. but that's the thing. the hearing is over as of today, as far as we know. >> no, there is the judiciary committee might decide to call witnesses. >> they could. >> i would just say this. you're going to have a two-week break coming up here, all right? today is the last hearing. the house does...

Republicans in recent days they tell me he's not providing the president with any kind of real guidance about the lines that could be crossed in foreign policy and diplomacy by engaging with mr. giuliani. in these sorts of discussions he is the acting chief of staff. but really in the eyes of his own associates and colleagues the chief staffer, someone there to enable the president's wishes, work with the president rather than contain the president and that caused alarm on the national security council in particular where ambassador bolton who was then serving in the administration. >> it occu...