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Push china to deal with the north korean missile threat, whether they're going to hold back because of their business interests or whether they're going to stop the flow of american jobs to china or not? will that be affected by their business? it's unprecedented. it's also against the rules. >> the fact that the white house said jared kushner was not involved in the presentation, he stepped away from the day to day business, given that should he be held responsible for what his sister did? >> well, the question is not just what his sister did. he has maintained -- he stepped away from this pa...

American jobs to china or not? will that be affected by their business? it's unprecedented. it's also against the rules. >> the fact that the white house said jared kushner was not involved in the presentation, he stepped away from the company's day to day business, given that should he be held responsible for what his sister did? >> well, the question is not just what his sister did. he has maintained -- he stepped away from this particular investment. but he has maintained ties through a complicated series of trusts. but he hasn't disclosed all of the lenders and other business partners in t...

About a north korea gaining both nuclear and missile capability that sooner or later can reach us. having the bases in japan, my suspicion is the trump administration will come to value more than perhaps candidate trump did. >> we have witnessed the change between candidate and president-elect trump has been frequent so far. nice to see you. >> good to see you. >> coming up here, china conflicts. how the trump brand of politics and business may clash with one of the most powerful countries in the world. you're watching msnbc live. stay with us. when growth presents itself? american express ope...