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Allies in europe who will fully support, actually, the u.s. position on this. many u.s. ally also support him. brian: real quick poland and turkey said yeah we have a problem with germany as well. real quick, you said that the alliance is obsolete. you think it should be expunged? >> no, no. the nato alliance is not obsolete. the nato alliance is fundamental were mentally important to u.s. strategic interests. it's vital to the defense of the free world. but we need to see all nato members investing more in the nato alliance. investing more in defense. investing more in the future of the trans...

That's what he does. that's the saying thing he is doing with the tariffs all around the world with trade. is he trying to get -- he is trying to upset the paradigm. trying to change the way things have been for a long time to benefit the country. that's why he got elected, he feels, so stay tuned. brian: i will say this, the president is trying to link the trade and the nato and the defense. he is linking it all together. steve: sure, why not? more leverage. brian: if they are smart, they will say let's roll up the sleeves and start working on trade while we can see each opener face to togeth...

How does this work? >> for some of the task force has to work out a long-term solution to the problem.right now as you said, we have over thousand children separated from their parents. it is obviously in untenable situation is really to work out something for the children. >> what do they do? >> you have 2400 or so. do they bring the parents in? apparently there are numbers, phone calls. sometimes they can talk to some children may be twice a week. it seems a little chaotic. >> it is discombobulated right now. the whole thing is to try to triage this and work out case-by-case situations.some ...

Problem on the failure of congress to deal with immigration over the last 30 years. it is a bipartisan problem. republicans and democrats. el paso is the largest u.s. city on the mexican border. we are the 19th largest city in the united states. we say we are then nexus of three states. new mexico, chihuahua, texas, to countries and we are one region of 2.7 million people. when i brought the mayor's and i took them to the top of one of our buildings at a restaurant to point out the view south. i asked him to tell me the difference. tell me where el paso ends and mexico begins. none of them cou...

That's been the rhetorical goal ever since. the tariffs have crept in where president trump points out how can this be, if they have ten times higher tariffs against our cars being sold in europe than we have against bmw and he mercs and audi being sold here. so he can get a compromise. i think it may be split the difference, sometimes that what will happen in secret trade talks. the guy to watch is our ambassador for trade, bob light lighthizer. he did this under president reagan. he got some pretty good deals in those days, for example, with the japanese. the china problem is much bigger. >>...