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Banning Eyre speaks with Arturo O'Farrill and reviews a concert by the Cuban Khaleeji Project

The efforts to overturn the 2020 election is in talks with the committee about testifying. how critical is giuliani's testimony? have you seen other trump loyalists stonewall the investigation? do you think giuliani, at the end, will really cooperate? >> well i'll tell you, rev, i'm not going to believe it until i see it. you know giuliani better than i do. look, he was trump's right hand man throughout this. he's on, he's one of the poster boys, one of the poster children for the cabal of people trying to overthrow an american election. he's hip-deep in this crap. so it would be wonderful if ...

Have you seen other trump loyalists stonewall the investigation? do you think giuliani, at the end, will really cooperate? >> well i'll tell you, rev, i'm not going to believe it until i see it. you know giuliani better than i do. look, he was trump's right hand many throughout this. he's on, he's one of the poster boys, one of the poster children for the cabal of people trying to overthrow an american election. he's hip-deep in this crap. so it would be wonderful if he came clean to the january 6 committee, but rev, we got a lot of evidence that the main players like my former colleagues jord...

In this Hip Deep episode, we use music to explore that history as we take a road-trip across the country in search of sonic traces of Afro-Mexico.

Afropop Worldwide is a Peabody Award-winning radio program and podcast, including the Hip Deep and Afropop Closeup, series dedicated to music from Africa and the African diaspora.