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A big part of the conversation when i talked to your lawyers was could wayne williams grab somebody -- did he have the strength -- look how -- he's not a big guy. could he -- >> i see what you're saying. >> could he grab someone in an unarmed combat technique and kill them? and your attorneys would say to me, you met him, he's not a big guy. so if you're telling me, yes, in fact, i was trained by the cia, which is basically what this document says in a nutshell, on weekends when i was a teenager and i am trained in the choke hold technique, that's one thing. if you're telling me that, no, that...

It. a big part of the conversation when i talked to your lawyers was, could wayne williams grab somebody -- did he have the strength -- look how -- he's not a big guy. could he -- >> i see what you're saying. >> could he grab someone in an unarmed combat technique and kill them? and your attorneys would say to me, you met him, he's not a big guy. so if you're telling me, yes, in fact, i was trained by the cia, which is basically what this document says in a nutshell, on weekends when i was a teenager and i am trained in the chokehold technique, that's one thing. if you're telling me that, no, ...

To comment on today for reasons that the document says, okay. the fact is, what does that have to do with the situation today? >> everything. >> you tell me. >> it has everything to do with it. a big part of the conversation when i talked to your lawyers was could wayne williams grab somebody -- did he have the strength -- look how -- he's not a big guy. could he -- >> i see what you're saying. >> could he grab someone in an unarmed combat technique and kill them? and your attorneys would say to me, you met him, he's not a big guy. so if you're telling me, yes, in fact, i was trained by the ci...

That never happened, but you're writing a long fantasy about being trained with the cia in weaponry and the choke hold technique, that takes it a whole other direction. remember doctors said at least two of the victims and perhaps more were probably killed by choke holds. do you know how to kill someone with a chokehold? >> i'm sure -- >> that's a straightforward question, isn't it? because i can answer it. my answer would be, no, sir, i do not know. what's your answer to that? >> let me say something about that. >> that's a yes or no answer. >> no, it's not. >> yes, it is, actually. not until...

Toobin, mark o'mara, and sunny hostin. two things from the daily news. first, bill bramhall's cartoon from ""the new york daily news"." and the statue of liberty. says "i can't breathe." now to the cover of the daily news tomorrow. an all black cover. with, goddess of justice saying i can't breathe. and then the cover of ""the new york daily news"." and grand jury clears choke cop. and we can't breathe. what do you make of the images? >> i feel like i can't breathe. right. i think that it resonates with what is going on and resonates with so many people. the notion that you can see an unarmed ...