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Problem, and when you stand out here at 2:00 in the morning, you see little babies, your heart goes out for them. what kind of person brings them? well, people that are sure they're going to be able to stay. >> if they believe they can stay, they will keep coming. three basic groups of people are the family units, women with children, or pregnant women, and then the unaccompanied children and the adults, and the last two groups, border patrol said they're seeing an increase in the number of gang members, the ms-13, and teenagers who may be vulnerable to recruitment. >> they're going to dispers...

Now it's hard to get them out. >> gregg: when congressmen pete starke of cal declares, quote, our borders are quite secure and indeed in a videotape that has been seen all over television in the internet, he mocks those concerned about our borders. is he wrong? >> he's wrong. according to the people that i speak with, the work that i've done on the border, i have been back and forth from la raid do to juarez, tijuana, across the arizona border into senora, from douglas, over the border. what i have seen is a very porous and dangerous border. it's the reason we see people in arizona complaining...