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Bolton as secretary of state or even rudy giuliani as secretary of state, or i forget the name of the guy from kansas that he wanted to be his dhs. chris cobalk. our argument around the table if you're the disrupter, then you be the disrupter inhi you need to have people that know the system around you in your cabinet. it actually, when it comes to foreign policy that does look, you listen to what jake just said, sounds like exactly what is happening is trump shouts and tweets we are going to get out of nato unless you guys pay your 2%, right? >> right. >> and scares the hell out of the nato c...

[applause] jon: finishing with some quotes from the poet whose poem is inscribed at the base of the statue of liberty outlines his plans for immigration reform, to my ear he didn't come up with any specifics, he outlined broad themes of what he'd like to pursue. joining us francisco hernandez an immigration attorney from fort worth, texas. chris cobalk is coowner of the arizona immigration bill and candidate for secretary of state in kansas. chris i want to begin with you. the president said arizona and states like it are ultimately trying into force laws that are unenforceable. your reaction?...