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This is bringing together two people who have never wanted to be in the same room with each other. i think this is an extraordinary achievement of the pope showing how he's trying to build bridges between people who are in conflict. >> and ivan, the father mentioned the pope invited leaders of palestine and israel to pray for him in rome. will they go? >> both offices of the palestinian authority and israeli president both indicated they're open to this and welcome the initiative. there's something to keep in mind here. israeli president is stepping down from office in about two months and he'...

Misunderstanding. sound plausible to you? >> absolutely. it happens every day. we encounter people every day in the street and when we question them they give us the answers that they know we're looking for. at that point we have no alternative legally but to let them go on their way and in the instance of it young man, they had no justification to further their actions by forcing entry into his residence and searching and so on and so forth. they just did what we normally would do. these welfare checks are a bit more common than most people realize and most of the time the focal point of them...

Sandwich. >> what about chris' right to live? when will this insanity stop? when will enough people say stop this madness? we don't have to live like this! >> reporter: at this point the pace is picking up. witnesses say he's driving his bmw to people on the street. one person is shot outside of these apartments, gunfire smashing windows. it is everywhere. a few blocks away the gunman shoots at a deputy and misses. officers now in pursuit. he makes it a few more blocks, striking a bicyclist. a couple blocks away he shoots three more people until there's a gun battle with deputies. it's four de...

>> when i saw that, i was just shocked. i couldn't -- i didn't believe that was coming from him. when i heard everything, i'm still shocked. it's just a crazy feeling. i still can't believe it. >> chris mulhandi is a forensic psychologist from los angeles. welcome, chris. >> good morning. >> this shooter names this kid in his manifesto and calls him a friend. as you heard lucky say, he didn't even know him that well. strange, right? >> right. he's very narcissistic. he's got a lot of paranoia. everything gets magnified in his world. he's seething with envy, looking

Forehead against that wall and he prayed. with me to talk about this, cnn international correspondent ivan watson and father thomas. welcome to both of you. >> thank you. >> ivan, i want to start with you. why was the pope's gesture so powerful? >> i was in bethlehem yesterday and palestinians were delighted because that separation barrier, which was built by the israeli security forces, is really a symbol of what they consider to be oppression of occupation. they call it the apartheid barrier. by walking up to it and showing the cameras the graffiti that you see in those images, they believe ...