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It is a place that we have never seen. i think people have always warned this could happen. it's actually happened. and when i talk to people, whether they are pro-choice or they are personally opposed to abortion, a lot of them don't think we should go this direction. 73% of americans don't want to overturn roe v wade. you have a situation here where they would actually put doctors in prison, 99 years, that's what the alabama law says. this is a law that they passed that would mean that if someone was raped, if a college student was raped, she wouldn't have a choice in that pregnancy from a r...

Chris: but let me, if i may, i'm running out of -- senator, just to cut to chase here, because we're running out of time, how would you feel if dhs shipped several hundred migrants to pennsylvania? >> yeah. we actually do house some migrant families, and that's, you know, a temporary arrangement that is made necessary by the crisis on the border. i'd like to fix the crisis so that that's not necessary. chris: okay. let's -- one last subject i want to talk to you about, and that's iran. over the last week the president has taken a number of measures, he's ordered a carrier strike group to persi...

Positions that he's had. i think he also has a lot of built-in advantages, not just name i.d. but i think his advantage among african american voters, particularly in the south, is going to be a real strong point for him and everybody else has to figure out what kind of lane exists to take on biden and the best way to critique him. chris: perhaps the biggest political development so far this year and certainly this week has been that now eight states passed very restrictive laws on abortion, alabama leading the way with the most restrictive law which would only alaw an exception not for rape o...

Another stupid war -- and say, look, i'm still in charge, and we're not going in there. as much as this stuff has played out in the public square, i'm still in charge, and i don't want this to happen. chris: julie, i want to pick up on precisely that. as our white house watcher here, how much of a split is there within the white house or within the administration, especially, for instance, between the president and his national security adviser, john bolton, who's very hawkish on iran? and it does seem that for all of the talk that the president and the saber rattling, that he really does not ...

Suburban areas. it's one of the reasons that republicans lost the house and there's a concern that if the party is seen as rallying around these state laws, cheering them on through the court system, that that will have a detrimental impact on trump and other republicans in 2020. chris: i thought that as the issue stood right now, with there was a bright to an abortion, the -- right to an abortion, it energized the pro-life side. if there's a chance they might go up the court system and get to the supreme court and people begin to perceive that roe is under threat, does that change? >> with th...