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Who were closest to the presidents, who were closest to them in their election campaigns and in their policy considerations and so forth have been men. that's not something that will continue indefinitely. i wouldn't be at all surprised if in the very near future a white house chief of staff is a woman. >> i think you're absolutely right, but let me go to you, chris. i think my favorite moment of the whole piece showed how hard the job could be and the impact it has on some of the guys. let's have a look at that. >> in the middle of the meeting of the national security council, i fell sound as...

List. >> you meet with foreign policy team, the economic policy team. then you meet with the white house staff. then you'd have a larger meeting to talk about what you were going to try to get accomplished that particular day. in an average day, you would deal with things like bosnia, northern ireland, the budget, taxation, the environment, then you'd have lunch. >> all 20 living white house chiefs of staff tell all in the two-part discovery event that culminates tonight. we're now joined by one of them, jack watson, former white house chief of staff to president carter and chris wipple, execu...

And opinion on which he ultimately can base his own decision. that's one of the really important roles of the white house chief of staff. >> absolutely. fascinating to get a better understanding of what goes on behind closed doors. you can check it out tonight at 9:00 on discovery. jack watson, chris wipple, thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> my pleasure. up next, a group of people sharing the future of politics, arts and cuisine and you may not even realize it. it starts with something little, like taking a first step. and then another. and another. and if you do it. and your f...