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Down isis is so important. stop them overseas. if you can't stop them overseas, have new processes at the border. biometric passports, for example. hardening of cockpit doors. finally, when they get here, you look at programs like the nypd ensure that you have an intelligence process to identify people before they do something. i think securing locations is not going to be efficient. this is not about locations. this is about people. you've got to find people before they do this because you just can't secure everything. >> phil, is it also about timing in terms of do law enforcement and counte...

Vehicles to mow down infidels. what can law enforcement and counterterrorism officials do about this? >> boy, i don't think there's much they can do. if you look at major events, we just had the thanksgiving day parade in new york. if you think about what happens in this country, for example the rose bowl in california, in contrast to when we started down this counterterror campaign 15 years ago. back then you had a defined space. you had to protect a cockpit. you had to have people go through new scanners at airports. but that's a small space where you can control access by people. think abou...