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first african pope. is the catholic church at a crossroads? cardinal peter turkson, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. in your long career in the church, you have seen the centre of gravity, the geographical centre of gravity of the church, shift quite dramatically. what difference do you think it has made? well, thanks for having me on the show. yeah, it is true. it is true that what used to be... ..a church centred in europe, out of which a lot of missionaries went out, and so came to africa and several other places in the south, we see some decline. decline that manifests itself firs...

what difference do you think it has made? well, thanks for having me on the show. yeah, it is true. it is true that what used to be... ..a church centred in europe, out of which a lot of missionaries went out, and so came to africa and several other places in the south, we see some decline. decline that manifests itself first in the form that missionaries are no more... ..out there to be sent. church numbers are dwindling. but in the home of those missionaries. yes, yes. in germany, in germany, in france, in ireland. absolutely. and those countries where the missionaries did their wo...