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Them to criticism, they've always wanted to say we had to do that because communism, because subversion, because of, you know, nuclear danger. in this case, what they're trying to conceal is that they did something that's universally condemned that did not work. and, you know, if that comes out, if that is made clear, then, you know, the game is up as far as that is concerned. and there will be some kind of accountability. i don't think anyone will ever be prosecuted, unfortunately, for these crimes. but there will be historical accountability for cheney and bush, i believe. >> ron, when we ha...