snufl hey, martin. six people were wounded. 13 injured on that terrible day in january. loughner has already pled not guilty to the earlier charges brought against him. how do you expect him to respond to this latest indictment today? there s every indication he will continue with that not guilty plea as his defense team works toward some kind of mental health and insanity defense that they say it will take a long time to develop in this case. jay gray, thank you very much, indeed, for joining us. and when we come back, where have all the catholics gone? one of america s top cardinals on the church s dwindling attendance. plus, charlie sheen unhinged? can anyone bring this star back to reality? what can you do with plain white rice? when you pour chunky sirloin burger soup over it, you can do dinner.