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Be after this airs. >> i cannot explain it to you. google it, michael. why is he trying to do this? why tax something that helps people? >> does it help people? >> yeah. i haven't had a cigarette in four months. >> why are they taxing something that helping people? >> he turned it back on me. >> i don't know what to do now. ellison. he is trying to kill people, that's what he is doing. >> we talked about e cigarettes three times. i am not convinced it is not necessarily a gateway to cigarette smokes. >> it is not. >> that may or may not be based on an neck dough tall evidence, but i do think t...

It's got prunes in it. they just wait until it ferments good. kind of a strong, whiskey aroma. they keep it in these airtight jugs so it ferments good, gets good and hot. then sell it for bags of chips, cigarette smokes or cold drinks or whatever they can get for it. that's how they make their little living in here. just to survive. >> there are ways to make legitimate money at holman. here at the tag plant, inmates make license plates and are paid 30 cents an hour. prisoners can spend their hard-earned cash on food items in holman's sandwich stores. >> i buy candy, cokes, zoo zoos, wham whams...