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Minimizes the impact. i think what you're seeing is the department of justice move mountains to make that happen and i think you're seeing defense counsel resist that. >> one of the things you said yesterday was on this review -- this cipa process, the classified documents themselves, one of the tells about judge aileen cannon and whether this would be speedy or not, is whether she brought in a magistrate judge to do some of that work. did we learn when we might find out if she's going to do that or not, or did she hold all of her cards very close to the vest today? >> well, i think it goes to...

Have to deal in because we're dealing with secret and top secret information. and i know you've dealt with that statute a lot. i was wondering in your experience is there any reason that should really prolong this unduly? in other words, can you deal with the cipa process, dealing with how the parties can access classified information, make motions, have a court rule on it and is that a timeline that still allows the court to say, yes, this can go to trial before the republican nomination or before a general election or is your experience that that is such a complicated process that we should ...

Then be presented to the jury. now, it's important to know that a big piece of that process is the one that takes place before the case is charged and that is getting the intelligence community to agree to the potential exposure of these documents in the course of litigation. many espionage act cases never go to court because you can't get that agreement, people aren't willing to essentially sacrifice the secret or sensitive nature of the documents. >> so, in other words, the reason that these documents are cited is because they are -- it could have been a lot worse, it probably was a lot wors...