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Something else. princeton undergrad, harvard law school. we've never had anyone with her basis of education in that job. i tend to think that side of michelle obama, the effective, whip-smart communicator is the one this president and others are about to see. she's going on a tour of venues the likes of which bruce and jay-z and beyonce play. >> absolutely. it's just this split screen, right, between the white house as it is right now under donald trump, which depending on his mood could be circa 1938, circa 1955. and then you have michelle obama, and you're right back to kind of a vision of a...

Controversial -- i'll give you a little controversy back. i'll never forgive him for what he did to our united states military. >> mara gay and phil rucker are still with us. mara, there is that obvious that i think sets michelle obama apart from our other first ladies but i choose to dwell on something else, princeton undergrad, harvard law school. we've never had anyone with her basis of education in that job. and i tend to think that side of michelle obama, the effective whip-smart communicator is the one this president and others are about to see. she's going on a tour of venues, the likes...

Being perks persecuted. >> tucker: why does an end in mexico, with an economy larger than saudi arabia -- why is is it america's unique obligation to take -- there are 1.2 million people in africa. all of them have lower standards of living than americans, many are living in violent places. do they all have a right to come here? it's a real question. >> could it be because we are the mostld powerful and the richest country in the world? >> tucker: we are not the richest or the most powerful. circa 1955. that would be china, which doesn't believe in diversity or immigration, just so you know. d...

Make this decision on their own. >> they are not. absolutely not. and it is inexplicable why the school system wants to be responsible, if the child broke their arm, they would have called the parent. martha: we have to leave it there, julia, thank you very much, when you think of the things schools are afraid to do, these days, to say certain holidays -- and are not afraid to do this? it just boggles my mind. >> doesn't make much sense. thank you very much for being with us. this. >> thanks, martha. martha: pleasure to have you with us today. bill: we mentioned the star a bit earlier, a cold-...