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That's wrong but i haven't talked to a law enforcement person or a national security person who says that that's not what is most likely to happen. how is there not a member -- even mitt romney and i guess the 35 house republicans who is worried about that? >> well, you know, privately, i think, as you and i have discussed before, nicole, privately, there are republicans actually quite afraid. there are republican lawmakers who are afraid of their constituents, because they are caught in this circular, i don't know, circular loop in which they've emboldened or misinformed their voters by sayin...

Really sort of looking upon. republican solution. if there were, as there was on 9/11, a joint bipartisan group that dug into this and joined hands and said, we're going to find out what happened here, there would be no sort of blame on anybody's particular plate if we just dig down, find out what happened, find out how it happened, reveal it to all, and then the voters can see it for themselves. it's an independent and bipartisan investigation. that might solve this circular loop that republicans are trapped in right now. they wanted to help their president, they wanted to let him claim that ...

I know you can stack 'em up any way you want them and spin them. the worst television made in america was made by people who only cared about ratings like donald trump. and donald trump is even stranger, brian, because as you just showed, if the numbers aren't good, donald trump will say they were the greatest ever. i'm telling you, i took such pleasure in seeing that back and forth with you. i've done that so many times, when you're in that circular loop. >> you have to try. the state of the union is one tradition. another tradition is super bowl sunday. i'm wearing my green eagles tie. julia...

To defund obama care. >> and jack lou says the government will run out of money to pay its bills unless congress races the debt ceiling, and the president says he won't negotiate. >> it's remarkable the events we are seeing here is almost unimaginable. >> we asked the senior political analyst about the political witching hour. how bad is this? >> we are facing an extraordinary few weeks in term ale and crisis at the worst, where nobody has a way to navigate through the shutdown and debt. we are facing the same issues that divided president obama and the republican house since january of 2011, ...

Houf to navigate through the mine field of a potential government shutdown and then a potential default on the debt. we're really saying the same issues that have divided president obama and the republican house since january of 2011 coming back, yet, again, almost in this kind of circular loop. >> now, what makes this a little unusual is the fact that democrats control both the senate and the white house, making it emt treemly unlikely that they would give much ground on the president's signature domestic connell flikts. some say it's more of a symbolic fight. what's really become a rallying ...