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Whole thing that did bug me. i'm looking at you because i don't want you to be offended. the constant talk about the gop reaching out to latinos, latinos, latinos. nothing mentioned about african-americans. latinos. why even bother? why even try? >> it does feel like -- part of it is because it's been a long time since 40% of the black vote went over to the gop but latino voters under george w. bush gave president bush 40% of the vote. >> right. the funny thing -- first of all, i have to say this. this was a really good week to be latino. i'm not just saying that because president obama was re...

And -- >> that moment was from president obama's emotional speech to his campaign staff the day after he was re-elected. we're still here talking about president obama's passion for the process. joining our panel are raoul reyes and nancy gooils. raoul, when i saw the president choke up about that, he also had gotten emotional the day before the election talking about the fired up and ready to go, a volunteer who chose not to go to chicago, i'm like, that's it. that's the process. he cares about his domestic accomplishments, but he got emotional about the idea that he has fired up a group of a...

And get them to turn out for things that directly affected them, to involve them in the process. >> even with -- when wisconsin lost, when they weren't able to recall scott walker, that was an amazing example of the power of unions and number of unions. i am a member of sag. a loot of our members went to support other unions. they are their grassroots equivalent there too. >> no, go ahead. >> i think ohio really exemplifies it. because obviously in ohio you had john kasich, the governor, approaching a union initiative. lee saunders, who is the president of a union, they helped target ohio.

Universities, every kid who is in my classes ends up in circumstances where they're from schools where you're encouraged to make mistakes. your experiment fails and you learn from that. to the extent that it's about civic education, you've got to figure out things which means it has to be safe to fail. >> a lot of process. >> it goes back to where the administration is going to be in january. we have some months between now and january and where i hope things will be applied. you've got a situation where the administration on testing has riled the unions and teachers and families and kids all ...

I buy that the press is a process president and would argue for it on domestic politics. he is a a different duck in the foreign policy land. many liberals would have a critique of some of his lack of process in some of the foreign policy stuff. is part of what he's saying that the recalcitrance of the republican house might bring out that aspect of president obama? >> well, i think there are two things. first, i think steve is absolutely correct. the republicans forced his hand. by showing that they were going to be entrenched opposition that could not be reformed or changed, he had to assert...