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>> we do. why don't you guys get yourself some bling. >> jim, let's pick up the conversation that harold and joe were just having. you're doing some reporting this morning that the republican party perhaps ignored big red flags from pollsters with the ryan budget plan. >> a lot of people have spoken on the hill. >> they're saying this could be a time bomb and destroy things. he only jumped out in front of it and embraced it when it was clear he had to show conservatives in his own caucus that he's serious about cutting spending. so the party went all in on a plan that the party was reluctant t...

Slow down the rate of growth of people 50 and under or do we want it to collapse? there's a poll out, a.p. roll. they think you can cut the budget without cutting entitlement programs. why don't we take a poll and ask how many think that two plus two is four. i can guarantee you if the majority disagree with that, it doesn't change the fact. two plus two is four. don't even say that. >> i can say it because i believe it. >> no. all you're doing there is saying, okay, we're going to take care of it on one side. we're going to tax people more. no, you've got to reduce the size of benefits. can s...

Harold. he balanced the budget. >> no. come on. >> he signed it. >> he stood by his values. you get credit, but you cannot deny him credit. >> i'm talking about medicare. he demagogued medicare shamelessly. he was lectured by "the washington post" and even left wingers because it was such a disgraceful dem gotting of med kafrmt republicans did it in 2010. democrats are doing it in 2012. >> fair enough. democrats should have come back and done health care a little differently. i agree with you. you used two or three reasons. stock prices going up and all. republicans should do the same thing. g...

Welcome back to "morning joe." 45 past the hour. time now for the must read politico pages. to back up this conversation which got you a little excited this morning. >> i'm just excited to be here with you all. >> to your point, harold, as well. it might be a political time bach. that's what gop warned as the house repairs for the vote on paul ryan's budget with a plan to dramatically remake medicare. no matter how -- casting it as the only path to saving the beloved health entitlement for seniors the ryan budget's approval rating barely budged above the 30s according to a republican operative...

Just for the rich people, the middle clachls harold, say it, the truth will society you free. we must slow down the rate of entitlements. tell the truth. tell the truth. people will respect you. do we have do that, yes or no. >> clearly. but as much as you do that, you will lose. you will see that in upstate new york. >> he must be pretty zbhood it's a woman named -- >> does jane not know how to tell the truth to people. >> >> it's come down to ryan versus -- you're make mieg point. if it's something different than ryan, i'm for entitlement reform. if it's something different than ryan, it mig...