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Influence an american election. i had always thought we might see some russians indicted, but i really expected we would see them indicted along with american counterparts. so this is a little bit of a curiosity. it does have this impact of clarifying for us that mueller believes that this is an election-based crime. although there is also a wire fraud and banking fraud charge in here. we've also got this aggravated i.d. theft charge that comes to light. but it does definitely hint that there could be americans down the road. we know that deputy attorney general rod rosen stein was awfully car...

Just as a legal strategy if it makes sense to define this as a crime so overtly in part because you plan down the road to charge other people with conspiracy for having participated in this criminal conspiracy maybe it helps, seen as laying down a predicate for people for the fact anybody involved in it participated in a crime? >> you know, i guess that's a possibility but i would think that that would be more of a byproduct of this indictment that's it's intent because the core crime is it's illegal for a foreigner to influence an american election. i had always thought we might see russians ...

Just as a legal strategy if it makes sense to define this as a crime so overtly in part because you plan down the road to charge other people with conspiracy for having participated in this criminal conspiracy maybe it helps, seen as laying down a pred k preparing people for the fact anybody involved in it participate in a crime? >> you know, i guess that's a possibility but i would think that that would be more a buy product of this indictment that's it's intent because the core crime is it's illegal for a foreigner to influence an american election. i had always thought we might see russians...

The fbi will release their own document because they objected to the release of this in the first place and they said it would be extremely damaging. there has been speculation that perhaps christopher wray will lease a statement of his own clarifying what's going on here. but i think everyone will be watching rob rosenstein now because that is said to be trumps target because he wants him removed because he's the only one that can fire bob mueller. so those of the moving pieces here. >> lisa: but if your president from, you have every right to be deeply concerned about all of this. a democrat...

Saying, clarifying the president's position, but affirming that the united states is with israel as an ally but it's also with jordan as an ally, egypt as an ally, and in fact, pence noted that many people think peace is not possible but this is not theoretical. the vice president was income of the united states has helped egypt to make peace with israel and israel make peace with jordan, two of the most difficult elements of this conflict have been dealt with and these treaties have lasted. the question is, those treaties happened because men were willing to sit down and make hard choices fac...