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Of a magazine. >> yes. . and i went to the travel policy, it is the general policy of the u.s. government that less than premium class accommodations must be used for all modes of passenger transportation. i travelled back and forth on that shuttle we've all been on hundreds of times and saw obama cabinet officers in coach. what mr. pruitt doesn't understand is the people talking to him in coach are voters. and so many of these people who work for donald trump don't understand, they don't understand the meaning of being a public servant. think think they are coming to serve at the trough, they...

It's interesting, too, you have a republican members of congress saying shulkin should go. saying look this is what trump ran on, what you just played from the clip in 2016. this is what he ran on and if it means anything, he has to go. >> rick, it's nice to sit in the pointy end of the plane, the seats are wider, it's nicer. but you know government travel is fraught with restrictions. >> yes, it's incredibly detailed driven but i went and did old fashioned reporting -- >> you were the former director of a magazine. >> yes. and i went to the travel policy, it is the general policy of the u.s. ...

Republican members of congress, mike kaufman, who's out there saying shulkin should go. saying look this is what trump ran on, what you just played from the clip in 2016. this is what he ran on and if it means anything, he has to go. >> rick, it's nice to sit in the pointy end of the plane, the seats are wider, the service is better. it's great up there. government travel, however, as you know, having served in government, is fraught with restrictions. >> yes, it's incredibly detailed driven but i went and did old fashioned reporting -- >> i just read you were the former ed former editing mana...