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They really did something and who feels powerless in this moment. it's a moment of awe and power, and then we in the media provide the coverage. they're not really powerful unless they're heard and have that impact. >> also in your research, how much is known by other people in their orbit, their family members or friends? this guy, some of the social media posts that shimon prokupecz has seen are laying out, i've got an ar-15 and i want to kill people. >> that's kind of astounding that still happens. after columbine, the same secret service report found an astonishing number, i believe in the...

Testified that was his intentions in leaking the memos detailing communications with the president. it is what we learned is actually at this decision to open this file if you will on trump was made actually before the special counsel was actually named which was just a few days later. >> for president trump, the irony is his own actions in firing comey actually led to then this evolution, ultimately led to this special counsel and led to the special counsel according to your reporting and investigating him for obstructi obstruction. >> when you think about it, when comey in his first meeting ...

Own attorney general was in place, not only what we are seeing now unfold but also with people arriving and nobody knowing what to do once people have actually landed and they had visas. >> someone had to think this through. from my standpoint, a legal standpoint, you're fnot going t do something as dramatic as this that you have not run by the senior level unless you are intentionally bypassing them. >> are you saying he might have expected or wanted this level of disruption? >> from a political standpoint, yes. legally no one could have ass e assumed that sally yates or anyone would have dec...

Which is not going to generate money from the state. it's taking capital costs and putting them in an operating budget. >> don't have to raise the gas tax. >> that's the problem politically. >> at the heart of this particular issue, there's something called the martin act. >> yes. >> new york state statute. can you explain in terms -- this is my understanding of this is that people on wall street, new york side here fear this thing, it's a new york state law and because this is the manhattan district attorney looking into it, this is a law with real teeth in it. >> important point. you remembe...

Uma: eric, they want to send a strong message. >> they should send a strong message. uma: airing rick, go ahead. >> a pint of sweat will save a gallon of blood. that is the point the government wants to do. i agree with everything fred is saying. you don't buy cigarettes for mine morse. -- minors. however the government will have a difficult situation trying to get conviction in this case. normally the fed indict you by information they have done their homework. in this case the allegations, these are allegations. the guns were purchased in 2010. there are no eyewitnesses. time is always a def...