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Uma: eric, they want to send a strong message. >> they should send a strong message. uma: airing rick, go ahead. >> a pint of sweat will save a gallon of blood. that is the point the government wants to do. i agree with everything fred is saying. you don't buy cigarettes for mine morse. -- minors. however the government will have a difficult situation trying to get conviction in this case. normally the fed indict you by information they have done their homework. in this case the allegations, these are allegations. the guns were purchased in 2010. there are no eyewitnesses. time is always a def...

That happened two years ago. fred is a very experienced former federal prosecutor. they know normally before they indictment someone they have their ducks in a row. not so in this case. the feds arrested her afterwards. we have sandy hook. columbine, rejuvenation of argument of second amendment. a pint of sweat will save a gallon of blood. they want to stop felons from having people directly or indirectly help them get weapons. >> that is not where the federal form says. that is not what the federal form says. are you person who will use and possess this firearm. she said yes. that is not true...

You have concurrent jurisdiction. the government and state will both have difficulties with the prosecution. >> uma, what you're watching is why eric is criminal defense lawyer. he wants you to look at a lot of different things. this is very simple. i prosecuted these cases under 1001. i can't count how many felony and possession cases i prosecuted as prosecutor. his second point is right. you have to show that she knew he was a convicted felon. this guy beat his mother to death with a hammer and went to jail for 20 years. i find it hard to believe they won't be able to establish that. the for...

We'll watch this closely. >> all ma, fred, happy new year. jon: less than 12 hours till we ring in the new year as times square gets ready for a big bash and a crush of hugh manty. thousands are gathering. better bundle up. 2013 is coming in with an arctic blast. your new year's eve weather forecast next. we're hours away from falling off the fiscal cliff. got your parachute handy? holiday cheer is in short supply on capitol hill as the search goes on for a last minute miracle. >> this will not affect the debt situation. it will be a political victory for the president. and i hope we'll have...

Uma: heap new year to you too. this is very sad and disturbing story we're bringing to you right now. as i understand it, dawn wynn was with the gunman at the time these weapons were purchased. fred, what can you tell us about this? >> i can tell you a bunch of things. everybody knows you don't buy cigarettes for a 12-year-old in the grocery store. you don't buy cases of beer for a bunch of 16-year-olds in their car parked in the parking lot of a liquor store. what possessed this woman to purchase two weapons, assault weapon and shotgun for this guy? the guy was a convicted felon. under the la...