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Beyond a reasonable doubt. i don't see them having a problem getting a conviction forrer on false statement count. >> i agree. she has to know it was knew issue it was a false statement. >> prove it. uma: look at her statement in and of itself. are prosecutors going after her for simply the fact that she apparently knew what was going on ahead of time? that she is guns were going to be used by this guy and the false statement component as well? >> uma, the issue is, i'm sorry, fred. i didn't moon to cut you off the issue you can't not purchase weapons for felons. felons should not be in posses...

It was gone forward before. >> it has gone forward you about to arrest is probable cause. to convict is reasonable doubt. i agree with you, fred but the issue is they need to prove the intent. they have to prove that she knew. it is going to be a court of law. prove it. one thing to make the allegations. it is all of full what happened to those firefighters. they have difficult enough job but the felons shouldn't have guns but she had to know, the government has to prove that she knew he was a felon and that has to be proven. i think it is very, very difficult case and a very difficult hurdle....