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Celebrate not something to denigrate. so i have a big problem with the message. the second problem i have is with the policy. there is not any justification to cut in half the net worth of this small group of people. that's what elizabeth warren would do with a 6% wealth tax. there is no problem facing society for which a 6% annual wealth tax is the solution. there's no problem in society that requires taking half of the wealth of the wealthiest people in this country. it is divisive, it is dividing america along class lines. it does not solve a problem. and there are better ways to help lower...

She's making her way through pounding the ground, i'm like you, grew up like you, common experiences like you. >> like mother jones. >> she can also say i understand where you're coming from like we're not that far apart. >> yeah. >> and also, speaking of language that i think is directly relatable to the issues which constantly talking about including identity working class bread and butter the things that we say that republican and democrats have to hit on in the -- in the lead up to the 2020 election. >> yeah. >> all of that plays to her favor, provided she can, you know, stay away from the...

>> you know what was striking about him as i recall. he was a hero of mine. he had an extraordinary ability to reach across class lines. to reach across -- racial lines that i really have, not seen since. what was it about him that, that allowed him to go into poor white communities, poor black communities, working classette ne ethnic white communities in the urban areas and come away with people feeling like he was their advocate. >> i think we all, we all saw something in him. that was real. that he had this, the ability, capacity to identify with people. whether, black, white, latino, asian...

And devicing figure. i don't know him personally. he may be a honey bunch. i have no idea. as a political persona, he is terrifying to donald trump's detractors. and you don't want your national security policy process to include a person that terrifies people of the other party. >> our 70-year-old non-ideologue president who came from a different world more malleable to this kind of thing? >> i have not seen anything that suggests that donald trump is malleable in terms of wanting his way. he's not ideological so i think on policy he's probably very malleable, but steve bannon is -- it has be...

Is to get the credit if you're a fan and the blame if you're a detractor for all of the sort of populism that we heard in the inaugural address, for the dividing of americans along class lines, for the speaking directly to the forgotten man and woman which was the closing message that got donald trump elected and whether you love that message or hate it, it was central to -- i agree that donald trump would not have won if it weren't for steve bannon. putting him in the room with career national security public servants, people who put their lives -- and watching military operations, never mind...