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Drafted. college kids get out of it. so we've had this class resentment in the country since the beginning, and that's what this is. 40% of the country doesn't have $400 of cash available. we live in this society where accountability is the bottom down, not topdown, and we see the resentments coming to life, and these issues have become a proxy. it's about who gets to say who has to do what, and lost in this, right, is any sense of the public good, the common good, and at the source of it is this misinformation machine that makes billions of dollars a year. fox news, the right-wing ecosystem t...

Earns $75 million from the ukraine government and didn't report it on his taxes. instead, he bought all of these luxury items. this is not going to appeal to the jury in terms of this person stealing that much money, that he doesn't -- stealing from the government, basically, not reporting it on his income taxes. >> you're saying just by defrauding the united states government, that's a form of stealing. >> right. >> because other people lawfully pay their taxes. >> that's right. there aren't going to be too many people on that jury that ever see that much money. never mind, not that many peop...

Let's tax the rich. let's tax the big corporations. >> is closing loopholes taxing the rich? >> i mean, i just want to put this out on the table really quickly. my position on taxing the rich probably is far more, let's say, progressive than most of the democrats that are going to be running for senate in 2014. i doubt they will embrace my idea of a 30% minimum tax rate. so it's not that, mika. >> yeah. >> it's that he's in a permanent campaign. he's playing to the lowest common denominator, using class resentment instead of getting serious like a president should. >> i'm not sure i agree with...

Breeding or fostering class resentment and using that to drive a wedge between voters and, of course, the american public. is this an effective strategy for mitt romney and his surrogates? does this appeal -- does this kind of rhetoric, this kind of -- i'll call it class warfare, does that appeal to voters -- blue-collar voters in swing states? >> first of all, a lot of those blue-collar voters are on food stamps. in pennsylvania, literally one out of every 11 people is on food stamps. and that includes a lot of people who are construction workers, a lot of people that work in manufacturing co...

Your secretary, as a trailer park guy, i'm ruling for that answer. >> he'll say no, i don't. we need tax reform and everybody pay their fair share. i think he can brush that off. i'm telling, democrats who think they are going to win this year on class resentment, i'm just saying -- >> fairness. i call it fairness. fairness. fairness. >> you are going to lose the election if you do that. >> fairness. >> you were the one that pointed out and the white house loves to point out mitt romney is rich. yes, it plays to the progressive base. yes, i understand people think he's rich and evil. i'm telli...