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The next step. this issue, the issue of immigration and terrorism, this is going to be the issue of the trump presidency. it got to get it right. >> chris: the president seems to indicate on air force one that he might not pursue the case, to some degree, that might seem to be the best way to handle it. >> may be not just appeal this particular ruling, maybe go through the district level come up maybe this gets solved by the supreme court and may be, like you were saying, they come up with additional executive orders. they are going to be on this issue for the next four years. >> charles, you ...

Preliminary stuff involving trump and the fbi, the cia, the battle he had with the intelligence agencies. and i have thought that some of these leaks are a way for the agencies to say, you're messing with the wrong bureaucracy. we are the keeper of the secret secrets. a classic case of that, of course, jackie hoover. he had something on everybody. -- jay edgar hoover. this is the beginning, the feeling out, the beginning of the boxing match. i think he is right, this is really hurting the president. if you can't speak to a foreign leader without having the transcript on the front pages of the ...

>> chris: and we're back now with our panel to get their winners and losers of this very busy week. tim, start us off. >> actually in a counter intuitive way i believe donald trump was the winner. why? because they got three cabinet members passed including one that required a tie-breaking vote. he also got some executive orders taken care of that didn't get challenged. in the ninth circuit, god forbid something happens, but he has cover in case something does happen because he can say i tried to keep the country safe. >> chris: and your loser? >> the loser is the democratic party. their retre...

Roll out wealthy next day. the next step. this issue, the issue of immigration and terrorism, this is going to be the issue of the trump presidency. it got to get it right. >> chris: the president seems to indicate on air force one that he might not pursue the case, to some degree, that might seem to be the best way to handle it. >> may be not just appeal this particular ruling, maybe go through the district level come up maybe this gets solved by the supreme court and may be, like you were saying, they come up with additional executive orders. they are going to be on this issue for the next f...

Moratorium and there is the vetting. the vetting forget the support. it doesn't depend on a moratorium. the fact is, they have lost the case and the most liberal circuit in the country, at the district level, for now, the supreme court is deadlocked. it is likely to return. in other words, the state cases stacked against him. by playing a losing hand? needs to do, think it's exactly right, either rewrite the order or have a new one. a different playing field. you've gotten a sense of feedback of the ninth circuit, you know what will pass muster" mode. for example, from the beginning, you exclu...