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They believe in obamacare. they like the program. they just can't believe it was been bungled so badly. classic example, robert gibbs, former white house press secretary saying heads should roll and people should be fired over the rollout. jon: the president noted it was his signature achievement. when he comes out and says i'm disappointed with the way it is working, why is there not more, i don't know, more being done to fix it? >> well, you know, the president obviously trying to do damage control. we saw that yesterday with that big white house event where he almost seemed like an infomerc...

In america can something like that be possible. as far as what's going to happen with the shutdown itself, there is a group of moderate republicans, they number about 15 and want to see a clean cr bill on the floor. democrats hope it gets up higher, possibly that boehner could be -- could move forward on that. however, there's no guarantee that would happen. from what i've been told, they want at least 150 or so republicans to go with the clean cr bill before they are comfortable putting that on the floor. now it's partisan fights that nothing that brought along the stalemate. >> safety in num...

Consistently government becomes more bloated and as government becomes more bloated we have challenges every place else in america. classic example, nlrb fighting north carolina fighting boeing. boeing corporation in south carolina and keeping the jobs and adding more in washington state. the nlrb gets involved in the race this is a bad situation. you look at the doj suing south carolina over our voter id law. 3$3.5 million we had to spend. we won, doj comes back to south carolina, a little town, branchville, 800 voters, and we spend hundreds of thousands of dollars verifying the voter id law ...

Troops. a classic example is tokyo rose eventually pardoned by president ford years later, terrifying troops in the pacific thinking japanese were behind every tree. >> you have john boehner suggesting he's guilty of treason and senator dianne feinstein. strange bedfellows in this case. this is a bipartisan use of that word now. >> treason is the only crime defined in the constitution. the framers defined it in the constitution because it was the favorite of british kings to eliminate their opponents by accusing them of treason. thomas moore was accused of treason because of being a king on ea...

>> anything wrong with ms. crowley's posture? >> you know what? i'm not going to lose much sleep over her asking was it a mistake instead of being political. she gave him a chance tone a it does fall into the broad category of a reporter asking a scientist is it possible that the earth is flat because the chances of the earth being flat are exactly the same as the irs thing being simply a mistake. but, bill, there is something much bigger going on here, it's how the mainstream media, so-called mainstream media covers scan tells in general. finance a prib republican scandal it's always covered ...