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Our ability to know what the russians are up to? >> just because you have a back channel, if indeed that's what jared was after, it doesn't mean that he then keeps everything secret. i mean, he shares that. but the back channels, as i understand it and of course every administration has had it forever. back channel communications with people are ways to communicate with people, again, not in front of the press as an example, but that information is not necessarily kept secret from the rest of the government. >> does jared kushner have the same level of security clearance that you do? >> i don'...

Of the, you know, press as an example, but that information is, you know, not necessarily kept secret from the are rest of the government. >> does jared kushner have the same level of security clearance that you do? >> i don't know. >> on intelligence front? is that something you should know? >> not necessarily. everything we do in the security world, classification world, of course, before i would start talking to anyone, i would make sure they had the requisite security clearances. i'm cleared for top-secret compartmented fbi, that kind of thing. >> is jared the same kind of thing? >> i don'...