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The lack of any claw backs for the bankers who created all that debt that we're just referencing. how do you sell the american people on the idea that you've solved the problem when four out of five of them don't think that you have? >> right now i'm more concerned we solve the problem. we're going to be vigilant. if the regulations that come out of this bill createç loop hope. we will have done nothing. the criticism of the american people will be justified. that's a big step in front of us. i hope we look back in five or six years, and say, yes, we got a rid of lot of the systemic ris risk...

It participates. finally give. support watchdog groups who shine a light on the corruption that create holes in the bucket. special interests drawing our future wealth away tr us for their own indulgence and cowardness. one of the best, omb watch, which since 1983 has been at the forefront of increasing transparency and accountability as it relates to the way government spends our money. >> and more of the fix to come this week. in fact, in just a few minutes we'll talk to a man who spent the last two years of his life identifying waste in the federal government and identifying ways to fix it....

Interview this morning, geithner also asserted that without president obama's bailout, we would be much worse off. yes, he attributed it directly to the current president, even though it actually occurred under the previous president, president bush. now president obama clearly guilty of perpetuating it. that aside, geithner praised obama for deciding to quote fix the situation, even though he knew forking billions over to banks wouldn't be popular. here's a choice he could have made. claw-backs for the ceo for the compensation for the executives that were taking the risks, knowing they were n...

Percent, that's $50 billion more on debt service. so it's -- it's not hard to convince yourselves that republicans are, you know, deeply hypocritical on debt and deficit. one thing i always like to remember, these are the folks that voted for the paul ryan budget, which unquestionably implies a $6 trillion increase in the debt ceiling. so it's really hard to get your head around this. i don't think the theater is costless at this point, though. >> sally, i wanted to talk to you a little bit about where the center of this debate is, because you and i have had conversations about this before. we...