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early? is this ad fair? >> he knows that ron to santos by all polling in every estimation is likely to be his toughest candidate. he is going to soften them up a little bit. he thinks this is a voting issue. trump has always been this way on entitlements. i won't a touch of them. he is now's now looking at desantis's record who put some votes forward in a paul ryan budget, a number of republicans did as well. basically a statement of acknowledgment that we needed to do some thing about entitlement in the long-term which is not something anyone should be surprised with but he's joining trump, even biden, hoping this is a place they can beat up desantis and suggest he will push granny off the cliff. that's the opening salvo. paul: these programs are not
took an incredible combination of circumstances to put donald trump, there and i'm the guy you can nominate and not screw it up. >> which by the way i don't think that idea, which i think is a pretty good read of what the politics were. there were a bunch of flukie, confluent factors that produced the result. that to me is interesting because it doesn't have a specific ideological vallance. we've got a majority. the guy sort of weirdly backed in off the comey letter. let's do what we want to do. >> but the problem is it's a structural distinction between the two factions within the water. we have multiple factions within the democratic party, but the two major factions. and so the biden, bullock, delaney, ryan, they're essentially saying we can go back to brunch pretty soon once this man is removed because our lives are discomforted right now, but they're not fundamentally altered.
that's a 28-62 issue. >> flip it around, when you look at abortion, abortion being illegal in all cases in roe v. wade overturned, which is what donald trump's position was. he literally said i will appoint in that debate with hillary clinton, that's a 60-40, 65-35 issue itself. he managed to rig a lot of that, right? >> i'll give you another one. when i think this is the unspoken message of the biden campaign, think of the success that obama and biden had. what was one of the best weapons they had to use against republicans? it was the paul ryan budget. it was medicare. it was the fact that romney put ryan on the ticket. it was the fact that romney then reinforced the message by having the 47% tape come out. but that is an example where you can take any poll in 2011, this broadly -- nobody wants to go after medicare. >> and it will even the issue. that is always my response. when people say republicans think big. they've been going big on medicare privatization.
death on the republican party as it was before donald trump. explain that. >> reporter: yeah. rand paul speaking last night, brianna, was seen as a pain in the butt for a lot of republicans because they wanted as ryan mentioned, they wanted to move this through the senate so they could avoid a government shutdown, however brief. what rapnd paul was saying is what every republican leader would have said five years go. they were organized 100% during the obama years to deficit reduction, and restraining spending. why we have the paul ryan budget, which in many i was is why we ha ways why we have paul ryan as the speaker of the house. donald trump committed a hostile takeover of the republican party and he doesn't care about debt and deficit. this is a person who very famously said, called himself the king of debt and proclaimed i love debt. they have gone along with that. what rand paul was doing on the floor last night was saying, wait a minute, we're the same party that five years ago was
>> this a trump budget or a paul ryan budget? >> it is a hybrid. the consul tratation of the wes wing and the hill where they want to go with these numbers. the thing to keep in mind before we get to the narrative is the fact that this is not a cut necessarily in programs but a cut in the rate of increase over ten years to those programs. >> our society is increasing. >> again, if you graph it out, you'll see a lot of these programs still go up, just not by as much. but the most important point in my view is how do you then go out to the american people with a narrative that says basically what we're all talking about here, you're cutting programs like c.h.i.p. that impact kids. programs that will have an impact on these families. even if you cut at the rate of increase, so it's not 7% increase in the budget but 3 1/2% -- >> let's talk about food stamp programs. jonathan, your thoughts? who is this going to hit pl
also is an ideological notion involved in it, is that you have to admit, medicare is a successful government program. >> it is. >> that goes against every -- all of the messaging that conservative -- that, you know, contemporary conservatives are putting out. so they need to dismantle it or destroy it in some way, because it undercuts their central narrative, that everything from the government is bad, the government can't run anything well, and it will harm you. >> and you know, nancy pelosi has come out and vowed to hold firm against paul ryan's medicare plan. this has been passed over and over and over. the paul ryan budget has passed dozens of time. republicans are on the record voting to turn it into coupon care. has paul ryan inadvertently given democrats something to sort of rally around and fight for? >> i hope so, because we need it. and we've had this fight before. i used to work for miss pelosi. it was a big rallying cry in the early 2000s when george bush was president. he's taking failed policies of the past -- he, paul ryan -- and right after the election, he said, donald trump has a
poor. six in ten women, 60% of women describe the economy that way. and only 36% in the country see the country moving in a positive direction. 80% said the economy is in extremely or very important issue. so i think the debate coming on a night of a world series game, people are going to have divided attention, but it's a very important one for the election. >> here's another way to think of the debate. we've been talking about economic policy, tax reform, but the other way to look at it is they're going to have to deal with entitlements, a huge issue right now in washington. in terms of the budget being debated. will conservatives accept the budget that's being put forth by speaker boehner before he hits the door. even over the weekend on chris wallace, you saw carson on the defensive for his plans for, initially said he was going to get rid of medicare. then he said no i'm going to do something else that's even better. and then guess what donald trump comes back and says ben wants to hurt you old folks. remember this goes back to the paul ryan budget and grandma
not surprising, the cbo says they're not as optimistic. part of the reason is they see $1.4 trillion in tax increases in the president's budget, that's going to suppress growth. >> comes down to the difference in tax revenues and how they're counted. the house passed the paul ryan budget. the senate have determined they don't do budgets anymore. they're not going to do one. this probably won't past, right? >> we're divided in congress. you mentioned paul ryan. he said something very interesting about this budget. he said at this rate, we'll never balance the budget, we'll never get to a period where we say, the world's going to be a better place for our kids. our kids are going to be paying for this for years to come. >> have a great weekend. >> thank you. the president talks up obamacare enrollment, the casualties of the law only starting to become known. we'll tell you about one that could cost older americans millions of dollars. plus, brand-new information from kansas city police that will have drivers resting easier this weekend.
the affordable care act. now they're trashing the person who brought to us. they want to rewrite history. it's a sad state of affairs, but what we're used to. the ryan budget passed the house yesterday. how much longer can these joekes dozen the what ylaw is helping ? >> they just kbts stop. the paul ryan budget repeals the benefits of the affordable care act. but it keeps the savings.
here's another reason to lose the baby weight after childbirth. canadian researchers showed that gaining weight after childbirth can increase health risks including higher blood pressure, and cholesterol and glucose levels. one major criticism of the paul ryan budget, is the massive cuts to the food assistance programs, and the gop-led house narrowly pass ed the budget thursday, but it won't get through the senate, be if it did, it would cut an estimated $150 billion from the food stamp program in the next decade and this fight is going to continue at a time when 49% of americans are suffering from food insecurity and including 8 million children, and now the washington post is reporting that the food insecurity is a problem for college kids and not only a dramatic number of rise of universities who have had to open up student food banks, but