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The justice system. there she will hold him accountable. the idea of some ponying donald trump is a little weird as a lawyer to say that you would subpoena the target of a investigation. i think she should, say we are -- she's freaking out trump already. he's yelling out a few minutes -- there was a phone call with georgia. this is the guy with who's on the phone with the secretary of state, saying i want my hundreds of thousands of votes, just -- and bingo! there's crimes here. donald trump has committed crimes, federally, there's no doubt in my mind, but statewide, i think it's a cleaner cas...

Howard university, went to work as a prosecutor for 17 years, and we -- she knows every in and out of the justice system. there she will hold him accountable. the idea of some ponying donald trump is a little weird as a lawyer to say that you would subpoena the target of a investigation. i think she should, say we arekeeping everything out there.- she's freaking out trump already. he's yelling out a few minutes -- there was a phone call with georgia. this is the guy with who's on the phone with the secretary of state, saying i want my hundreds of thousands of votes, just -- and bingo! there's ...

But when you give this information to your buddy, the professor, who gives it to the "new york times," essentially a cut out for your leaking. steve: i think the key passage there was he tweeted he didn't release any of the -- he didn't release any classified information contained in the memos to members of the media. lisa: but he did send it onward. steve: what he did was and this is probably why he was not prosecuted. he had leaked directly to the "new york times," that would have been a cleaner case for the department of justice. but bus he gave it to his friend, mr. richmond, the professor...

Nightmare situation. it could not be a cleaner case for republicans defending only the tax cuts for the top 2%. this is very clear. mitt romney tried to parse it and say, well, maybe we'll get revenue from capping deductions. maybe we'll go after the mortgage interest or some other deductions. that was litigated. they lost. it's simple and clear to everyone that 98% of the tax cuts could go through tomorrow, today, any time if boehner got out of the way. but he still has the rejectionists in the lame duck caucus, and i think he's a little afraid the right flank might come at that speakership h...

Trillion in new taxes, calls for a little -- not even $400 billion in cuts, and they want to have this extra spending that's actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. i mean, it was not a serious proposal. and so right now we're almost nowhere. >> let me start with -- let me start with joy on this thing because you and i often agree. if we don't, we don't, and we'll live with that. but this whole thing here, i think boehner has never accepted the fact that the rates have to go up at the top. there's something about deductions and all this finesse. they lost the debate. if there'...