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Clear talker. pushes back. in both of the meetings but in sanders, we pushed him on this idea that the police should make people feel safe. interesting conversations about the role of policing and community police. we pushed him on civil asset forfeiture which he came out against after the meeting. we talked about the difference between income and wealth. i'm hopeful he'll talk about the racial wealth gap. you take everybody up to the poverty line and people still have no wealth. with the clinton meeting, it was different preparation. she's not released a full platform around criminal justice....

>> sure. david brock, thanks for joining me and being honest. all right. one of the central issues emerging in the democratic primary race is criminal justice reform. over the summer black lives matter activists interrupted martin o'malley's panel discussion and shutting down busy's speech in august. activists met with several of the candidates, many of whom released some kind of criminal justice reform package. it will like hely be one of the biggest topics of the night. joining me deray. you have -- there's a picture of you saw sitting down with hillary clinton along with a bunch of black li...