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Porter? if there were men in the white house, including chief of staff john kelly who knew about the past and very serious allegations against him, did that information ever get to hope hicks, and if it didn't why didn't it? if i were here lan didn't know, i would be very upset with this coming to light. >> i assume they have to do a full postmortem, shawn, to see were people lying, was he lying, get fbi involved? you lie to fbi in background information, that's a crime. >> it absolutely s and they have to go and look at what happened here. i think there are some members of congress calling fo...

Able to walk into our government office. it's unbelievable that it's 14 months it's come to this. you either are preventing people and making sure their backgrounds are clean and doing it in a right and lawful way or you're not. this is just ridiculous. >> dana: one of the things i thought of, this puts the president in a terrible position. according to reports, he didn't know about these allegations until earlier this week. why would you put him in a position like this where he is vulnerable to attack because they didn't actually just do the right thing in the beginning. >> there's something ...

Protected. >> presumably that includes classified information routinely. >> in my experience, yes. >> i think what's striking to a lot of us right now is that this vetting process could have continued all the way until several months ago. the white house is reporting that some might not have been about made aware of some of these concerns about rob porter's background until as recently as november. wouldn't that vetting process have occurred months ago? wouldn't the white house have known about this way back as early as january of 2017? >> so i don't know the specifics of what the -- >> but in...

Right? that's the donald trump line. given the relationship between the president of the united states and his son-in-law, jared kushner, how plausible is it that jared kushner sets up a meeting with the ambassador to russia to set up a secret back channel without the knowledge of the president-elect? >> i don't know how plausible it is, but what we do know is that it wasn't on that form. they said it was an oversight. i think what we're learning, that the white house is coming to deal with, they're building this war room to fight against, as this investigative apparatus spins up to look at th...

The president of the united states and his son-in-law, jared kushner, how plausible is it that jared kushner sets up a meeting with the ambassador to russia to set up a secret back channel without the knowledge of the president-elect? >> i don't know how plausible it is, but what we do know is that it wasn't on that form. they said it was an oversight. i think what we're learning, that the white house is coming to deal with, they're building this war room to fight against, as this investigative apparatus spins up to look at these kinds of things, they're going to find all of these kind of disc...