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And he's going back saturday. we'll see if he has a compassionist empathetic moment. pence today clearing brush showed more what we expect politicians to do in these situations. he criticized his hat. he hasn't messed up a critical recovery so far, and i think that for the most part, aside from criticism of the margins, this isn't going to be a -- another crisis of august like we were talking about in the previous segment. >> thanks so much. we appreciate your analysis tonight. coming up a time of crisis in texas has brought out the worst in some people. it's also brought out the best in so ma...

With folks. tonight we saw advice president pence go to rock port and did things more like what we're used to seeing the president do. he had his gloves on. he had his jacket off. he was hugging survivors. what do you make of all the criticism. is it a temperature pivot in a tea pot. >> i think no win is overstating it. he avoided a george w. bush katrina so far. this is not going to go down in history as a giant crisis of his presidency or a giant flub. he messed up the optics by not meeting any victims of the storm and he's going back saturday. we'll see if he has a compassionist empathetic ...

>> controversy in politics, who knew it existed. here's one thing that is unique, it seems that on almost every issue or stand the president takes, you can find a tweet where he argues the opposite than what he is doing right now. the dollar figures, interesting and important for taxpayers to know how much it costs. do you think this is something that voters care about? >> i think it's always something that voters care about when the president is down. >> okay. >> when you look at -- alex mentioned george w. bush. in 2001, 2002, 2003, democrats dent like he was off clearing brush in crawford. ...

Partner? >> if you like chopping wood. >> if you like clearing brush, cedar. >> which sucks up all the water. i learned way too much about clearing brush over the course of eight years. >> the good old days. >> actually everybody is watching this, and embassies and foreign capitals trying to understand what this president -- to your point, yes. >> the pentagon always has a large infrastructure. that's fine. cia also. state department and other places, they still don't have deputy officials, and those are the ones who interface the most. a lot of foreign deposits are watching and waiting to see...

Vacation. the equipment of the white house, the communications, advisers, everything that comes with the president wherever he s. it looks to the world as if he's vacationing and he can claim, well, no, i'm not. just as george w. bush would say clearing brush in texas. he was working, too. president obama surely working in hawaii. trump made such a big deal that he would never take a vacation and the optics look strange. >> i don't meet many people that don't think there is a little bit of pressure associated with being the president of the united states and they deserve to have a change of sc...