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Supremacist movement. cli christian, what do white supremacists hear when they hear donald trump we just heard the challenge to the reporter throw willing back the alt left back at the reporter. >> it's a common tactic for folks to shift the blame to other people. it's always about blaming the other. but more importantly what we -- from what we heard is what we didn't hear, that was his denunciation of the alt right specifically. a group that is at the tip of everybody's tongue these days associated with neonazis with the kk and white nationalists. though he specifically omitted mentioning the...

Ideologically with him every time he tried to start a debate about politics i would shift and ask a question about his personal life and his family. and i think you know my take on richard spencer is that in front of the camera he is very much a performer. he is very much an entertainer where he amplifies his message. because he realizes this is his 15 minutes of fame. that's not to say he doesn't believe what he says. but the intention there is to -- is to really amplify this hateful message because of the attention he is getting and to rile people up to commit acts of violence and you know c...

Conversation you had with richard spencer, the organizer -- one of the organizers of the white supremacist march in charlottesville. let's watch this. >> do you think you put up propaganda? >> propaganda in the true sense of the word, yeah. >> do you think you put out miss information. >> absolutely not. sometimes i'm a thinker sometimes an organizer sometimes an entertainer yeah. tube ideological and also entertaining that's the trick. >> christian what do we make of that? what does he mean of ideological what's the entertaining part on his end of this and what's the ideological part in. >> y...