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Lot. people didn't see that interested in it back then. now we know that there were major efforts to attack the american election and now the chairman of the campaign has been indicted and another campaign official has been indicted and another one has pled guilty. there's no surprise in yesterday. i'm just gratified that director mueller is proceeding and this is picking up momentum. >> about that papadopoulos guilty plea and the idea that he was interacting with a russian professor who was offering up dirt and who knew that hillary clinton was trying to arrange a meeting, is that evidence of...

Laundering and tax fraud. sanders downplayed his role in the campaign as well. liste listen. >> again this goes back to activities outside the scope of the campaign. i can't comment on anything they did. look, the president hired paul manafort to handle the delegate process, which he did. he was dismissed not too long after that. >> not too long after? he was brought in in may, left in august. you all know who he is because he was so central to the campaign. handling the delegate process is a big deal in terms of what got donald trump elected. and manafort wasn't dismissed after that. he was h...

Campaign. >> that's not true but continue. >> your concern is about papadopoulos. >> you do this all the time. how they accounted for it when the russian spies -- there's funny money all over the campaign. >> when did british spies get involved, chris? >> they didn't go to hillary clinton and offer his information. this is such apples and bananas. >> it's still fruit, chris. it's still fruit, chris. both of them need to be -- >> fruit of the poisonous tree, michael caputo. fruit of the poisonous tree. i take your argument. we have to leave it there. >> i want to see both things investigated. >...

Sought and was promised thousands of e-mails with dirt on hillary clinton. fact, it represents the clearest cut connection to the administration. fact, george papadopoulos was a member of the trump campaign, a foreign policy adviser and a team headed by jeff sessions. here he is, see him at the table, sessions on one end, trump, then candidate, at national security meeting on the other. what are we hearing from the white house now? thi! this. >> it was extremely limited, volunteer position and no activity was ever done in official capacity on behalf of the campaign in that regard. >> volunteer...

Campaign. >> that's true but was much more -- outside strategists. look, i love steven. we have him on the show all the time. i'm not hitting his credentials. the idea that you only had the best of the upper echelons of this campaign is an arguable fact. what i'm saying is this. >> chris, the idea -- >> listen to the president -- >> the idea -- >> -- talk about this guy. i want the audience to hear it, then you make your point. >> george papadopoulos, he's an oil and energy consultant, excellent guy. >> doesn't sound canned to me. sounds like an honest assessment. >> he was reading from a list...