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Discordant gang of people with very little distinction to it in political terms. >> laura: conrad, we don't have to play it because everyone has seen it but each and everyen one of them one after the other seems to be falling in line with this idea of decriminalizing border crossing, illegal borderu crossing. meaning what's the point of american border crossing if you can cross in the country and stay and there is no penalty? >> there is no point to it and that's why they do not want to ascertain by the census takers the position created by the constitution in order to make clear about how man...

People to the rolls, how does he know that if he is not counting? how do they have any idea -- between 18-25? he doesn't want to count them but counting it to make the budget work. in terms of the citizenship question, i heard in that clip a moment ago, the mayor from south bend, pete buttigieg, he said 11 million people. as you know, i said time and time again when i'm on fox, if not 11 million people, it's about 30 million people. it would be a million just this year. >> laura: they don't want anyone to know. >> we should know who is here. >> laura: they want more money, more representation,...

For illegals, hold the ice. as an abolishing that agency forever. now she's throwing rocks at the entire department of homeland security. >> would you get rid of homeland security too? >> i think so. i think we have to get rid of a lot of the egregious mistakes of the bush administration. >> laura: let that sink in. a sitting new york city congresswoman wants to eliminate the department created after the 9/11 attacks. of course, she's not advocating that it be broken up into smaller, more effective parts, a point i raised in the past, what she believes is that the very idea of border enforceme...

That's a great name in the new york legal circles. she could not believe it. >> laura: the judge was freaking out. >> "no, i don't care what you say, i don't care what anyone else recommends, i'm sticking to what the parole board wants." >> laura: declined to prosecute one of the cases against harvey weinstein as well. i do not know the record in that case. one thing you and i talked about before, it's very tricky for people to pronounce judgment on a case where they haven't readas any of the record, they haven't read the witness statements, and in this case, apparently only two dozen alleged ...

So politics. >> 80% of your party center left. >> i am center left: >> disconnect. >> look it's center left. that's where i am. where it's not is way left. by the way, i think ocasio-cortez is a brilliant, bright woman, but she won a primary. in the general election fights, who won? mainstream democrats who are very progressive on social issues and very strong on education, healthcare. look, my north star is the middle class when the middle class does well, everybody does well. >> lawrence: tammy, if that's the case why is he flip-flopping on everything? >> i think what people are missing is t...