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Now, they are also congress and they have the right to release something publicly. the problem is that they didn't quite say that that's what the plan was. now, look, any viewer watching probably could have anticipated this outcome, given the extreme public interest in the former president's tax returns, but they sort of spoke out of both sides of their mouth here, claiming as was their right that they can legislate around this but also then turning around and immediately releasing them which the law does not obligate them to do. they did not have to publicly release the tax returns. >> okay. ...

With your legal assessment which is that you cannot direct a witness to not tell the truth which is what? effect seems to have happened here. look, witnesses often don't recall information specifically that they are asked and that's okay, human memories are fragile sometimes and you tell a witness if you don't remember say i don't recall but you do not tell a witness to say they don't recall the facts if they actually can, and that absolutely might be perjury or false statements, that in itself is a crime directing somebody to give a false statement under oath. >> the lawyer's statement says t...