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But right now it's unclear what he said. could the president have been saying we want a paper trail? >> i don't know. it doesn't matter what he is saying, laura, in terms of your question. i agree completely with professor dershowitz. there's no indication of a crime here. it may end up that it establishing that president trump lied which is certainly a serious matter. i understand he said he didn't know anything about the payment by the parent company of "national enquirer." that's very different as to whether or not there was a crime. i see nothing resembling that. i do think it's shocking t...

We asked for advance notice of that. we're waiting to hear back from them. we're going to continue to do anything and everything we can to cooperate with the government in the course of its investigation. >> michael, let's turn to the audio files recovered in the michael cohen raid. the fbi, they went into his apartment, the hotel, his office, safe deposit box. the trump organization will succeed in getting some of the files designated as privileged or at least do you believe they will? >> i think there's some of the files that will be, in fact, designated successfully as privileged. i don't t...

Issue. real question becomes what happens to attorney client privilege? a special master -- i love that term, by the way -- should have the turn to be appointed. not a star like some other people. but you have to have somebody that is independent, can look at the information and make a determination of what falls under attorney client privilege. the only personal that can waive that privilege is the client, not the attorney. it's a clear distinction. the attorney cannot waive attorney client privilege. >> you mentioned the president's comments. he said that michael cohen handled a small fracti...

York, the fact that it went through a federal judge, the fact that it went through rod rosenstein, does that not make you say to yourself well there may be something there, they must have had some evidence or some concern that michael cohen wouldn't comply with a simple subpoena. >> it's possible. and that would maybe justify searching records of michael cohen although you could subpoena a lot of that stuff through bank record and other things. but what justification is there for then seizing client information, lawyer/client privileges, information of the client and then giving that to fbi ag...

Over documents relating to this fisa warrant into carter page that happened in the 2016 election. >> you and i have talked about this before, the president tweeting his criticism of officials including doj officials, fbi you name it, in the intelligence community and you have always said to me, look, these are professionals and they will continue to do their job. is this just something that's sort of built in now and they don't even listen to it? >> it absolutely has a cumulative effect. it does affect the real workings of the justice department. it was reported that the attorney general himse...