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Some concern that the pentagon and the administration this playbook doesn't work with this camp. >> they don't know him and that's why. there is so much unpredictability and so much that we don't know. that's why it is so hard to calibrate our military show of force. i think the north koreans know exactly what would happen to them if they attacked the south or sent missiles to the united states. i mean, that would be the end of their country. but, the u.s. doesn't want to do something that's going to freak this guy out because it has no idea how is he going to react. i think the key to this is...

Al qaeda's flag. so i think this is really showing us really the fight we have been told over and over again is over, is not over and that we have to have a real discussion about what all this means. jenna: that's what we're trying to do i guess, right, guys? bret, what are our options? if the united states is in the place they're suggesting it is, what truly are our options at this point? >> the united states has been losing leverage all over the middle east since the arab spring began in the beginning of 2011. we lost essentially a client state or client regime in egypt. we've lost, we've sq...