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But as i just read, you said, "members of the administration are more concerned with russia's golden others." these are your words. they are on your website. i'm not making them up. i'm just asking you, how does that claim square with what we saw on thursday night where we bombed a client state of russia? >> first of all, i mean... one exception does not prove the rule. you know, this could very well be interpreted as an attempt by the administration to get out from under the claim that they are colluding with russia. but the bottom line is -- >> tucker: really? >> -- there's a lot i think tha...

Or you can be part of a political settlement. the russians for their part will looking at syria has been a client state for 40 years. they're going to look for their streak interests, whether the port or a continued economic benefit. >> jenna: the strikes in syria actually gave rex tillerson some political leverage. sounds like you agree with that. >> i do agree with that. it demonstrates there's a willingness to back up the intention. it was a very focused statement on where that line is, which is not that necessarily there's regime change as a means to an end, but that we're clear that assad...

>> look, the chinese calculation is if they helped bring down the north korean regime, they're going to have a democratic westernized south korea all the way up to the border probablyc with nuclear weapons, and thatat is the last thing they want. they now have a buffer state and that's a client state. it acts as a buffer between the west and south korea. >> bill: make them behave. keep them as a buffer. >> how do you make a great power behave? you tell me. >> bill: who's a great power?o not north korea, they can barely feed their people. china can slap sanctions on them that bring them to thei...

Is horrible, he did gas his own people and there should be repercussions but it should be laid out, it should be a strategy and should be something we are not just executing but executing with allies. at the same time we should be able to use the tune to also put per on people like russia. syria is client state of russia. russia was knowing or at least complicit in this type of nerve gas attack on the syrians. the fact that we are only going to crater a couple of airport fields and think that that's going to send a message when russia seems to be doubling down i i think is naive foreign policy...

It is going to be a festering sore for a very long time. but i think, frankly, at best, we're going to have to handle this sequentially. park the assad problem. work on isis. and then go from there. >> how difficult -- the level of russian involvement in syria, it seems like it is even more complicated now than it was during the obama administration before russia got involved. having them on the ground and iran as well, it's much more three dimensional battlefield. >> exactly. again, i would have been right where senator mccain was earlier on your show three years ago, four years ago when ever...