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Last word. >> look, the chinese calculation is if they helped bring down the north korean regime, they're going to have a democratic westernized south korea all the way up to the border probably with nuclear weapons, and that is the last thing they want. and they have a buffer state and that -- it acts as a buffer between the west and south korea. >> bill: make them behave. keep them as a buffer. >> how do you make a great power behave? you tell me. >> bill: who's a great power? not north korea, they can barely feed their people. china focuses them on a second to bring them to their knees. you...

>> look, the chinese calculation is if they helped bring down the north korean regime, they're going to have a democratic westernized south korea all the way up to the border probablyc with nuclear weapons, and thatat is the last thing they want. they now have a buffer state and that's a client state. it acts as a buffer between the west and south korea. >> bill: make them behave. keep them as a buffer. >> how do you make a great power behave? you tell me. >> bill: who's a great power?o not north korea, they can barely feed their people. china can slap sanctions on them that bring them to thei...